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JANUARY
1996
1) Date: Wed, 03 Jan
96 10:41:40 -0700
From: ahl1rhs@aol.com
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: (no subject)
Funny...no mention of invasions
or anything on your page.
I don't suppose there has been any international recognition
of NTRC, has there?
Theodoros Constantinides
2) Date: Wed, 03 Jan
96 20:36:04 0100
From: Oguen Taner Cinkoese (taner@anarion.cadlab.de)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Nice Home Page....Hi Yasar,
I incidentally got into your
homepage. I was wondering if there
is a Cyprus homepage. Now I know the answer ;)
Take care, bye, c u.
Taner (old-buddy).
3) Date: Thu, 04 Jan
1996 09:41:13 +0000
From: yahyal@vax.sbu.ac.uk
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject:
Nice work!
Really nice work you doing
here.
Hope you will keep it up
for a long,long time!
Latif Yahya
South Bank University
4) Date: Mon, 8 Jan
1996 19:24:06 -0500
From: MOK19@aol.com
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject:
JUST TO SAY HELLO
I ENJOYED NAVIGATING IN
YOUR "YESIL KIBRIS" PAGES.
GREAT JOB AND KEEP UP WITH THE GOOD WORK. I WOULD
RECOMMED GREEKS HERE IN NEW YORK TO VISIT YOUR
SITE AND HOPEFULLY ENLIGHTEN THEMSELVES.
BEST REGARDS,
MUZAFFER KARASULU
NEW YORK, USA
5) Date: Tue, 09 Jan
96 18:03:07 000
From:
Masoud Yazdani (masoud@atlas.ex.ac.uk)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject:
Comments
I looked at your pages which
look good.
Comments:
* The Islam link needs changing as the Islam page has
moved.
* There is not really much on the Bahai's of TRNC except
for some links.
There was a nice interview with M.Salman in PAN Magazine
about Bahai's in TRNC which it would be nice if you could
include at some point.
Masoud
6) Date: Tue, 16 Jan
1996 13:09:01 -0500
From:
Necati Hubbezoglu (blueakdeniz@stsim.com)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Sayin Yasar Sentürk
Kibris Yakin Dogu
Universitesine (NEU veya YDU) ait
Kibrista bir server varmi ve veya e-mail adresi mevcutmu?
Yardimci olabilirseniz sevinirim.
Saygilarimla
Necati M. Hubbezoglu
Montreal/Canada
blueakdeniz@stsim.com
7) Date: Wed,
24 Jan 1996 14:33:46 +0000
From: Patrick Mulvany (Patrick_Mulvany@baylor.edu)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: question
My name is Patrick Mulvany and
I am a student at Baylor
University in Waco, Texas. I am doing a research paper
for an ethno-political conflicts class, and my focus for the
paper is the Cypriot Turks. I am concentrating on their
minority status on the island and on their struggle for
autonomy. Also I will focus on the fact that they are a
group at risk. Can you recommend any internet sites or
books in general that will provide information on the focus
of this paper?
8) Date: Mon, 29
Jan 1996 12:12:47 -0800
From: Mike Granger (granger_m@wizard.colorado.edu)
Subject: (no subject)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Url:
X-Status: A
Dear Mr. Senturk,
assalamu alaykum, I am assuming
you are a Muslim like
myself. My name is Abdassalam Granger, from Colorado,
USA. Allah's blessing on you this month of Ramadan. I
was wondering, I'm assuming that you are either from
Cyprus, or very knowledgable on the country. Do you know,
or have you heard of, a great Alim and Muslim Saint named
Sheikh Muhammad Nazim al-Qubrisi?
He is from Cyprus, and known
world-over as head of the
Naqshbandi Sufi Order. If you do know him, or of him,
please share your knowledge of him with me. I'm curious
to know what role he plays in the minds and hearts of
Turkish-Cypriots.
Thank you very much.
9) From: an476506@anon.penet.fi
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 20:34:15 -0800
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: BRAXONHSIDA
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If you think you barbarian
Turkish you 'll get Braxonisida
from us then you must be crazy.We are ready to start a war
and you know that, as before we 'll win you (1821 etc.)
BRAXONHSIDA IS GREEK! BRAXONHSIDA
IS GREEK!
BRAXONHSIDA IS GREEK!
TURKISH ARE FUCKING
ASSHOLES!
TURKISH ARE FUCKING ASSHOLES!
TURKISH ARE FUCKING ASSHOLES!
TURKISH ARE FUCKING ASSHOLES!
10) From: panayi@zenon.logos.hol.gr
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 20:37:44 -0800
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: BRAXONHSIDA
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I AM THE GREEK THAT SEND
YOU BEFORE!
I FORGOT TO TELL YOU MY ADDRESS
IF YOU ASSHOLE
WANT TO SEND ME BACK: panayi@zenon.logos.hol.gr
11) Date: Tue, 30 Jan
1996 16:19:51 -0500
From: 100753.2450@compuserve.com
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Cyprus
X-Status:
The T.R.N.C.is not recognized
by the international community
with the exception of Turkey which invaded and occupied the
sland in 1974.
12) Date: Wed, 31 Jan
96 00:57:37 0000
From: aa28 (aa28@ukc.ac.uk)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: North Cyprus homepage
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
I was surprised to see that the
occupied part of the Cyprus
Republic has its own web site! I wonder if it says about the
missing persons, the violation of human rights and the UN
condemnation of the invasion.
I guess not! Anyway, it doesn't matter since the whole
situation is temporary...
Never to forget.... someday the world and especially Turkey
will realise the meaning of these words.
Alexander Antonopoulos
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FEBRUARY
1996
13) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 96 18:18:00 GMT
From: "Kumbarji, Emir
[GB]"
(EmirK@bfpo1.gb.unisys.com)
To: yasar <y.y.senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Northern Cyprus home page
Yasar,
Enjoyed your Home page.
Keep up the good work.
Emir Kumbarji
Email: emirk@bfpo1.gb.unisys.com
14) Date: Sat, 03 Feb
96 01:59:43 -0800
From: "Apostolos (Paul) J. Fyssas" (pfyssas@direct.ca)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: (no subject)
Northen Cyprus touched by
heaven?
You probably mean "touched
by Attila" and under occupation
ever since. Everything has an end though, and so will the
occupation of Cyprus.
Cheers!
15) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 96
14:58:37 -0800
From: Carlyanne andersen
(Carlyanne_andersen@ccmail.iwu.edu)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: (no subject)
You FUCKING TURK !!! YOU
SUCK !!!You web page should
read: Northern Cyprus: "A part of Earth touched by Greasy
Filthy TURKS"
The so called TRNC is just a
sick joke and the most pathetic
puppet state on the Earth. Eventually it will disappear and
will be remembered as nothing more than a disease that that
briefly irritated the far superior GREEK Cyprus !!!
P.S. All Turkish
basketball teams suck dick and they will
always get their puny shitty asses whipped
16) Date: Wed, 7 Feb
1996 19:51:44 +0300 (EET)
From: I. Raika Durusoy (durusoyr@bornova.ege.edu.tr)
To: ncyprus@bornova.ege.edu.tr
Subject: kuzey kibris home page'i
hazirladiginiz sayfalar coook
guzel olmus, tebrikler.. size
az evvel talk cektim bunu ve birkac comment yazmak icin..
resimlerin bir kismi bornova'da degil, onlari yuklemek cok
zaman aliyor.. bir de ilk sayfadaki counter da disarida oldugu
icin yuklenmesi cok zaman aliyor.. ama tabi amaciniz sayfaya
toplam kacaccess oldugunu saymak icin (tum mirrorlardan)
ise haklisiniz..
tekrar belirtmek isterim,
sayfalar cok guzel olmus, tebrikler..
I. Raika Durusoy
durusoyr@bornova.ege.edu.tr
http://bornova.ege.edu.tr/~durusoyr
17) Date: Thu, 08 Feb
1996 16:21:25 +0200
From: Murat Balci (balci@bornova.ege.edu.tr)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: ege.
X-Url: http://bornova.ege.edu.tr:80/~ncyprus/
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status: A
Merhaba,
Ege'deki sayfanizi gercekten cok begendim. Ancak belki
sizin icin kucuk ama buradaki herhangi bir kisi icin cok
buyuk bir problem var. Sayfaniz acilirken yurt disinda bir
yere baglaniyor counter icin. Belki bu sayfaniza baglanan
tum kisilerin saysini bulmak icin guzel birsey olabilir ama
bizim gibi kotu hatlara sahip kullanicilar icin cok kotu birsey
ve gercekten cok zaman aliyor, ufacik 1-2 gif icin bile. Hele
hele gunduz saatlerinde!
Eger isterseniz buradan counter
koymamiz zor degil.
Saygilar.
18) Date: Thu, 08 Feb
1996 04:18:42 +0000
From: Casper Voogt (gt7642b@prism.gatech.edu)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Mr. Salman Interview
X-Url:
In your interview with Mr.
Salman web page, something
about Baha'is' "obsolete belief in Baha'u'llah" is written.
I advise you to change "obsolete" to "absolute"--the
way
it is now it means the opposite of what it's supposed to.
Just helping,
Casper Voogt, the Baha'i
Club at Georgia Tech
19) Date: Thu,
08 Feb 96 18:36:25 0000
From: Cambridgeshire CC (ei52@dial.pipex.com)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Hello Again
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Yasar,
How are you? We have just browsed your web page
via BBC Babbage Bookmark. It was very interesting to
read some info from North Cyprus. But the news are old.
What you need is the update, maybe summary of the papers.
Selamlar
Fatos ve Osman Zorba
20) Date: Sat, 10
Feb 1996 02:47:10 +0600
From: Netscape User ("netscape
user"@macalstr.edu)
Subject: (no subject)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Url:
It seems that bastards like
you, cannot fit in their stupid
brain that you can never change truth. You know it very
well that lying on the Net is a good way to show your filthy
ideas protecting yourself from any danger of being asked
questions that reveal truth. How about the missing persons,
the enclaved, the refugees and their fortunes?
Unfortunately, your nation has
always been barbaric and
backstabbing. I have many Turkish and Turkish Cypriot
friends who fortunately do not think like you. Fanatism is
always bad, but lying is worse.
The Occupied Part of Cyprus
will never survive without
the Turkish money and, specially, will never become
independent. Turkish Cypriots are Cypriots with all the
rights to be so, but the same does not hold for the Turks.
I just hope that there will not be long until justice prevails.
-Netscape User
21) Date: Tue, 13 Feb
1996 11:40:47 -0100
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
From: Christos Pattichis (chrisp@best.com)
Subject: Your Web Page
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Status:
Just to let you know that the
places of Northern Cyprus
you are advertising in your page are ALL stolen!! Probably
you already know that but I am just reminding you that one
of these days your people will pay for the all the crimes you
have commited.
I was born in Morphou and I was
forced by your people to
leave my house and belongings. Since then I am not allowed
to even visit the place I was born, and now you have the
nerve to advertise my place on your Web page like nothing
has happened and the place is yours ???
Christos.
22) From: "Dr
Sebnem Turkun"
(TUERKUEN@dishekimligi.ege.edu.tr)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:11:43 TUR+2
Subject: Tebrik
X-Status: Yasar ne haber?
Uzun zamandir seninle
yazismiyorum. Bu arada Asli gitti
ama tekrar gelmek zorunda. Tum disleri berbat etmisler
zamaninda ve izleri hala mevcut.
Senin KKTC sayfana girdim ve cok begendim. Harika bir
is yapmissin, tebrik ederim. Oneriler kosesine gelen bazi
mailler ne kadar terbiyesizceydi oyle! Umarim onlara bir
cevap vermissindir.
Simdilik hoscakal ve kendine
iyi bak. Haber bekliyorum.
Bye :)
SEBNEM
23) From mike@accent.net
Mon Feb 26 01:16:41 1996
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:19:30 -0500 (EST)
X-Sender: mike_zamba@mail.accent.net (Unverified)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: y_pisan@nwu.edu
From: mike@accent.net (michael zambakkides)
Subject: Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus
Cc: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
X-Status:
This E-Mail is forwarded to you
for your reference (and
education) in case we all missed the point. We saw the
page(s) of "the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" on
www and we had to respond. I hope you don't take it the
wrong way but if you do, no problem. As educated people
I hope you understand our very strong feelings behind
this E-Mail. We had a good laugh at all the "sites" and
hotels, all taken from the Greeks. What have you done
lately????
Your comments are solicited.
>To: c650985@mizzou1.missouri.edu
>From: mike@accent.net (michael zambakkides)
>Subject: Turkish Republic
of Northern Cyprus
>Cc:
>Bcc:
>X-Attachments:
I recently saw your pages on
the "Turkish Republic of
Northern Cyprus" and I realised how pathetic you people
really are. What republic are you refering to you CLOWNS?
The one you self proclaimed without any world recognition?
The lands you occupy were taken by force from very highly
civilized people, and after fine Ottoman style, are now ruined
and regressing. A lot of people throughout the civilised world
watch what you did and continue to do to Cyprus. The time
will come once again when the Greeks or better yet the
Hellenes (yes the same ones that kicked your collective rears
throughout the ages) as well as all your neighbouring "friendly"
countries will turn on you. "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus"
indeed. You continue to be the laughing stock of the world,
because you are nothing but a backward bunch of miserable
clowns living in lands that belonged to the Greeks for millennia.
It is really sad that you actually think the world will recognise
your pitiful existence.
Have you ever thought of going
back to "YOUR ANCESTRAL
LANDS" in the depths of Mongolia and leaving this part of the
world to the civilised people that it belongs to?
Can you or anybody else from
your race tell the rest of the
world, via the WWW, what have you contributed to the
civilisation and progress of this planet? NO Please don't tell us...
let us guess, all the ancient ruins - marble statues, temples,
buildings, amphitheatres etc - in both Turkey and Cyprus are
from your Turkish ancestors. Are we correct? Well we tried to
help you but it is very difficult.
Lets face it, your barbaric
country's M.O. is violence and
destruction, as far back as our human history goes. I am sure
you will not like this message very much because the truth
always bites.
I would really like to see a
response to this message. Please
try to understand that there is no such thing as "The Turkish
Republic of Northern Cyprus" no matter what you and your
people say or do, but keep trying.
24) From behic@Planet.COM.TR
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:42:44 +0200 (EET)
From: Behic Gurcihan (behic@Planet.COM.TR)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Kibris sayfaniz
Mime-Version:
1.0 X-Status: ASayin Yasar Senturk,
Sayfanizin ODTU'deki ayna
kopyasini ziyaret ettim ve sizi bu
calismanizdan dolayi tebrik
ederim.
Su anda PlaNET firmasi olarak
Internet uzerinde Turkiye'nin
ilk elektronik gazetesi olan Xn'i yayinlamaktayiz.
Sayfalaranizda gazetemize de yer verebilirseniz seviniriz (http://www.planet.com.tr/)
Ayrica, bir kac medya kurulusu
ile de Internet uzerinde
yayincilik konusunda ortak calismalarimiz var(su anda Xn
bunyesinde Mumtaz Soysal'dan Hasan Pulur'a kadar bir cok
yazarin yazisini bulmaniz mumkun. Pek yakinda Milliyet'in
ve Cumhuriyet'in de diger yazarlari kadroumuza katilacak).
Ayrica Xn bunyesinde Radyo
Foreks/BBC haber hattini da
bulmaniz mumkun. Sizin sayfanizi gordukten sonra Kanal
D'den Banu Acun ile baglantiya gectim ve bu haberi
kendilerine ilettim. Banu Hanim sizinle gorusmek istiyor.
Bu nedenle telefonunuzu iletebilirseniz sevinirim.
Calismalarinizda basarilar
Saygilar
Behic Gurcihan
PlaNET
25) From e106920@orca.cc.metu.edu.tr
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:54:56 +0300 (MEST)
From: Emre Saraoglu (e106920@orca.cc.metu.edu.tr)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Status: A
Sizi KKTC hakkinda boylesine
guzel ve genis kapsamli bir
webpage hazirladiginiz icin tebrik ederim. Ben ODTU'de,
Uluslararasi Iliskiler 2. sinif ogrencisiyim, Kibris Sorununa
karsi ozel ilgim var (bir yil KKTC Yakin Dogu Universitesi'nde okudugumdan
dolayi) ve sizinle haberlesmek
istiyorum.
Adim Emre Saraoglu.
E-mail adresim:
| e106920@narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr |
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26) From EADEM@svcam.amd.com
Date: 29 Feb 96 09:42:00 PST
From: "ERCAN ADEM (22538)" (EADEM@svcam.amd.com)
Subject: WWW North Cyprus Page
To: "y.y.senturk" (Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk)
X-Status:
Dear Y.Y. Senturk
I have just visited your
WWW page on the internet. Well done.
If you have any news to forward on Cyprus please
do so to:
ercan.adem@amd.com
Hope to hear from you.Thanks
and lots of success to you in
your academic work.
Ercan Adem
Advanced Micro Devices
Sunnyvale, California - USA~
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MARCH 1996
27) Date: Sun, 03
Mar 1996 19:27:37 +0200
From: anonymous (anonymous@cytanet.com.cy)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Denktash
X-Url:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hope your so called president
that terrorist bastard dies in the
next few hours and goes
to HELL.
28) From: Inge Johannessen
(Ingjo@kocbank.com.tr)
To: "Y.Yashar Senturk" <Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: About Internet & Istanbul.
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:36:36 +0200
Encoding: 29 TEXT
X-Status:
Hi,
I am Norwegian mainframe
computer specialist that works
for Koc Bank and I have been here in Istanbul for about
18 months.
Thanks for your page about
North Cyprus. We were not
able to go during Bayram since we did not manage to get
a return ticket confirmed, but we will try again later during
spring.
I am connected to Internet at
work via Koc Bank. However,
I am interested in getting connected from home as well. Do
you know of any reasonable priced (excludes CompuServe)
Internet Service Provider(s) that are accessible from within
Istanbul? Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Mr. Inge S. Johannessen
29) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 96
16:55:31 -0200
From: Kampakis Georgios (gkampakis@dc.sote.hu)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: (no subject)
X-Url:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
THERE IS NO NORTHEN CYPRUS
ASSHOLE. CYPRUS IS
ONE AND ONLY AND THIS IS GREEK!
FOR EVER GREEK.
30) Date: Sun, 17 Mar
1996 11:52:33 +0200
From: Metin Benli (metin@dut.com.tr)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Yasar Senturk, Napan be Gardas!!
sabah sabah tuvalette hürriyet
gazetesinin ekinde
kibris'la ilgili web sayfasini okurken adini görünce bu
dedim bizim Yasar. Okuldan sonra malesef herkes
bir yol tutturdu,dolayisiyla kimse ile görüsme imkanimiz
olmuyor.Ama senin yurt disinda bir üniversitede
görevli oldugunu duymustum.Kimbilir oradakilere
derslerde ve projelerde ne izdiraplar çektiriyorsundur.
Ingilteredeki yasamin herhalde gayet neseli ve is doludur.
Bende internet'e yeni üye
oldum,henüz keşif etmeye
çalisiyorum. Internet Türkiyede çok eski olmadigindan
hatlarla ilgili çok aksakliklar yasiyoruz ama kisa zamanda
Türk Telekom'un uydu kanaliyla açacagi direkt hatlar
bize bu bilgi çagini daha pratik ve hizli yaşatacak.Elinde
bulunan ilginç web adresleri varsa lütfen bana mesajla ilet.
Evlendin mi ,yoksa hala
bekarligin altin devri olan son
çaglarini mi yasiyorsun.Oralarda okuldan bildigin tanidik
kimseler var mi bilmiyorum eger varsa hepsine selam söyle
ve acilen mesaj gönder.
Metin Benli
31) Date: Wed,
27 Mar 96 12:09:54 -800
From: gheysen@cnam.fr
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: keyboard friend
Dear Sir,
I am about to go to Cyprus
(North)
and I would like to "talk"
with a people over there.
Could you give me e-mails
of people livingin North Cyprus ?
Thanks in adavance.
Fabrice Gheysen,
gheysen@cnam.fr
32) Date: Wed,
27 Mar 1996 15:40:02 GMT
From: Nurit Korenbrot (cs4nk@dmu.ac.uk)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Greetings
Dear Mr Yasar,
I would advise you not to use the name Cyprus anymore
because it has nothing to do with your own race nor with
your Mongolian ancestors.
Your "fake" state is
only recognised by your fellow
"Mongolians" Any doubt?
Sooner or later we will throw you
into the sea bloody
Mongolians.
33) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996
13:45:19 CST
From: TAHSIN ERTUGRULOGLU
(tertugruloglu@hhh.umn.edu)
To: YY SENTURK
Subject: NCYPRUS-L mailing list
TAKDIRE SAYAN
GIRISIMINI KUTLAR, CALISMALARINDA
BASARILAR DILERIM. HAZIRAN SONUNA KADAR
BURALARDAYIM (HUMPHREY INSTITUTE - UNIVERSITY
of MINNESOTA) ; TEMMUZ'DAN ITIBAREN LEFKOSA'DA
OLACAGIM.
YENI e-mail ADRESIMI
ALDIKTAN SONRA ORADAN DA
HABERLESIRIZ...
SELAMLAR -
Tahsin
34) Date: Sun,
31 Mar 1996 03:38:43 -0500
From: Jeannie Marie Ridings (gaj@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: mailto:y.y.senturk@bradford.ac.uk
I have perused your web site,
as well as its links, and
can only describe my reaction to its content as astonishment.
To anyone with the least bit of political savvy the propaganda
inherent in these pages is offensive, ill-contrived, and childishly
selective. I am sure that I do not need to go into its deficiencies
and/or untruths, but I do have one question that I must pose.
Why don't you mention anywhere in these pages that Turkish
Cypriots themselves are fleeing the occupied area?
Why don't you mention that
Turkish citizens are being
"imported" to fortify the population of the occupied area?
How does it feel to realize that the occupied area of Cyprus
can no longer be even remotely defended as a "haven" for
"persecuted" Turkish-Cypriots when many of those who
reside in these areas are not even Cypriot?
It is time for you to realize
that there is no mysterious
reason which explains why only Turkey recognizes the
occupied area. For every other single nation on this
earth, your "republic" does not exist. I have read the
Turkish press-release page, and the ways in which your
government seeks to justify and eclipse its own brutality
is shocking. Why do intelligent people believe such
propaganda?
Instead of investing such
effort in maintaining a web
page that is so obviously an attempt to further Turkish
propaganda, your time might be better spent examining
the claims of your leaders. Can you honestly say that
they are "protecting" you? Do you honestly mean to
suggest that colonizing a land which is not Turkey's
amounts to a "humanitarian" effort?
Do you even comprehend that
colonization is precisely
what the British inflicted on the island before its internal
conflict? Are you such blind worshippers of Turkey's
hyper-military policy that any of these claims can seem
reasonable to you?
All I can say is this. I
am an American, but I vehemently
retain the right to critique and question my country's policies.
And I do so, often. Can you honestly say that you have
that same freedom? If you do not, then something is
honestly lacking in any information you might provide the
internet community. Instead of offering yourself as a
tool for nationalistic propaganda, put your hand on your
heart and spend a few moments examining such claims.
If nothing else, ask yourself
why no one else but the
Turkish defend the occupation. Why, why, why? If the
reasons for the occupation are as you say, then the world
community would be standing at your side. If you had the
moral high-ground, as you claim, then no number of Greek
Cypriot arguments could convince the world otherwise.
But you do not. And the world community does not stand
at your side.
You might want to think about
that.
Jeannie Ridings
35) Date: Fri, 29
Mar 96 22:18:39 0100
From: Turks Sociaal Cultureel Centrum
(turkcem@plex.nl)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: (no subject)
KIBRIS SAYFANIZDA BASARILAR
DILERIZ.
VENLO TURK CEMIYETI,
HOLLANDA
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1996
36) Date: Thu, 04 Apr
1996 02:39:40 +0200
From: "Antonis S. Antoniou" (aantonis@logos.cy.net)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Cc: aantonis@zenon.logos.cy.net
Subject: "North Cyprus"
X-Url:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
You must be dreaming a lot.
Only someone with a vivid
imagination could even think to write the shit you write here
on this page. Face the facts. There isn't and there will never
be a so called "Republic of Northern Cyprus". It lives only in
your dreams. Whatever you say and whatever you do the
facts never change and the rest of the world is not stupid.
You have invaded Cyprus by
forced, you killed innocent
people and war prisoners as your fat "leader" said, and
you live in places which have been Greek for centuries. You
are barbarians and everybody knows it.
37) From: Attila
F Gokbudak (agokbuda@runet.edu)
Subject: Greek Cypriot homepage- what a joke!!!
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:19:15 -0500 (EST)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I looked at your counterparts'
homepage today, and I
can't believe the absurd notions they posted up there.
They went as far as saying that Turkey "committed
human rights violations against Turkish Cypriots," and
that Turkey was responsible for "ethnic-cleansing"...
hmm, I wonder if the Greek word for that is "enosis":)
At any rate, I sympathize
all to well with your dilemma.
Good luck with your project,
take care,
Attila
Radford,VA.
38) Date: Tue,
16 Apr 1996 01:02:42 -0400
From: HuseyinBF@aol.com
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: North Cyprus Home Page
X-Status: A
Hi, My name is Huseyin and I
will use english since it is
easier to read withthe alphabet available to send this
message.
I really appreciate that
someone is putting the energy to
have some great info about Kibris on the internet.
The problem that I find is it
is usually difficult to get this
page. Maybe it's because the network traffic.
The other thing is if there is
a way to have news more
recent, it would be greatly appreciated.
Once more, thanks very much for
this great page. I think
it's one of the best about our beautiful country.
Good Bye,
Huseyin
39) From: "Lutfullah
KUSDEMIR" (KUSDEMIR@compenet.compe.emu.edu.tr)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:28:48 +1200
Subject: N.Cyprus Webpage
Merhaba,
I am calling from N. Cyprus,
G.Magusa. I am an instructor
in the department of computer engineering, Eastern
Mediterranean University (EMU). First of all, I would like to
congratulate you and your friends contributed to this great
work.
Yesterday, I tried to access
the closest mirror in the Middle
East Technical University (METU), Ankara; but a message,
something like "no data in the server" appeared. I sent a
message to the guy maintaining. Then, I tried to access to
the server in the University of Bradford, but I could not find
the path. Fortunately made out to access the other mirror in
the Bilkent University, Ankara and I read all the user
comments up to now. They show, both positive and negative
comments, how your work is great. I have been in N. Cyprus
for three years. I came here for my sabbatical from METU,
Ankara as a lot of members of faculty. There are quite a few
foreign members of staff from the USA, France, Russia,
England, Poland, Turkey, Azerbaycan, Kazakistan, Pakistan,
Iran, India, Canada, Australia, Germany, Italy, and even one
from Greece. The student composition is also multinational.
We all are greatly impressed by your beautiful country, the
hospitality and kindness of your people, as well as a great
university environment.
In our department, there are
several Turkish Cypriot students
would like to take a part in your work. I would also be pleased
to contributeand help the page. With a French faculty member,
we go spearfishing in weekends. We know all the N.Cyprus cost
step by step, and the fish are incredible. We can arrange a link
to provide information on spearfishing in N. Cyprus, as the first
step.Hoping to hearing from you soon.
Gozlerinizden operim.
Asst.Prof.Dr. Lutfullah
Kusdemir
40) Date: Fri, 26 Apr
1996 01:07:46 -0700
From: Kassianos Kourris (kasianos@spidernet.com.cy)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: (no subject)
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/root.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
You are a giant liar.
You are violating history.You
are not yourself.
You know that what you are
telling are lies
I ........... y... .... y....
.......er.
41) Date: Sat, 27 Apr
1996 23:52:23 -0400
From: Evan Nick Matiatos (spiro@smart.net)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Cypriot Liberation Force
X-Url: http://bornova.ege.edu.tr:80/~ncyprus/root.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If it is the last thing I
do. I will send all of you
mother fuckers back to Turkey
or back to hell, you choose.
You cock sucking, invading,
raping, murdering, Pigs.
How dare you infere that
your occupying forces as having a
legitimate claim to the
northern part of the sovereign island
nation of Cyprus.
All of you will pay, in the
name of Allah, Buddha, and Jesus.
42) From: "M."
Kendall (maldoon@dial.pipex.com)
To: YY SENTURK <Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: Contacting Nicosia?
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 21:17:28 GMT
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
Thanks for the reply Yasar.
Bye the way, I have noticed some very venomous messages
the N. Cyprus Web Page. In particular from Greeks.
Is there a rational and
civilised discussion forum available ?
I was caught up in the troubles there when I was little and
know first-hand what it was like before Turkey intervened.
I returned to Cyprus last year,
for the first time since 1968.
When I was there , my father gave me a book written by an
American historian, called "The Road to Bellapais". I was
shocked to read of so many awful things (most recorded by
the UN) that had happened even before I was borne.
Anyway, best wishes with your endeavors.
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43) Date: Wed, 01 May 1996
11:48:21 +1100
From: ali ali (aliali@ozemail.com.au)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: greetings from down-under
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/index.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status: A
Hi Yashar,
I'm writing from Australia
(down-under), I'm new on the
net and like to congratulate you on your contribution to our
"ISLAND of PEACE", you have put a picture into alot of peoples
preconcieved ideas of "Greeks only" cyprus.
I would like to add a link to
your home page if i may ? Being
new to the game if you can assist please check out my page
at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~aliali ,
How did you put your page so
when i type 'CYPRUS" in the
search engines you get listed ? also do you know of any
networks or internet servers or universities in Cyprus which
I can access?
Hope to read from you, keep
up the good work.
BEST WISHES
ALI ALI
44) From dser@cc.gazi.edu.tr
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 14:44:27 +0400
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
X-Personal_Name: devrim
Subject: yenileme
X-Status: A
calismalariniz cok guzel fakat
web sayifasinin guncellenmesi
lazim bunu yaparsaniz cok daha iyi olur
45) From Noah
Jacobs (noah@niles.com)
X-Sender: noah@niles.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 21:55:08 -0700
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Seeking information...
X-Status: A
Hi,
I just happened on your North
Cyprus web page while
demonstrating a search to my wife.
She's interested in family
history concering her uncle
Hilmi Fuad, son of Mustafa Fuad Bey, who I understand was
once the chief justice of Cyprus. The various Fuad children
became lawyers in several parts of the world (Uganda,
Australia, Hong Kong) while Hilmi ran away to America to
avoid becoming a lawyer himself. He died a couple of years
ago. Any tips on the history of this family would be
appreciated.
--NJ
46) From: "Photis Hadjicostis"
(photis@internet.com.cy)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Changing history
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 16:08:00 +0300
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
I have been following the
Cyprus problem for many years
now and even though I am a Greek Cypriot I admit that we
have made mistakes as well regarding the whole situation on
the island. However I have never seen history being distorted
like this on this internet page of yours. And it is scary because
people who have not studied the Cyprus problem can be very
easily mislead.
I hope some day you and your
countrymen will face reality
and cooperate with us for finding a just solution to the Cyprus
problem. Then I am sure that both our people will be able to live
peacefully on this island.
I am willing to get into a
discussion with you regarding the
Cyprus problem if you are willing to participate honestly and
without any biases against me.
Photis Hadjicostis
47) Date: Fri, 17 May 96
23:24:57 -0700
From: Tan Wee Cheng (tanwc@singnet.com.sg)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: North Cyprus
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status: AHi,
I have seen your beautiful
homepage. Well, I am a
Singaporean who's interested in visiting Northern Cyprus
in July/August this year. Do Singaporeans require a visa
to visit North Cyprus ? I don't need one to visit Turkey.
Please let me know as soon
as possible.
Thanks. =====================================
TAN WEE CHENG, SINGAPORE, REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE
Email : tanwc@singnet.com.sg
Homepage:http://www.singnet.com.sg/~tanwc/welcome.htm
Mad Rush Thru' Eastern Europe & Turkey Homepage :
http://www.singnet.com.sg/~tanwc/east-eu1.htm
My Accountancy & Business Links :
http://www.singnet.com.sg/~tanwc2/business.htm
Central/Eastern Europe & CIS Philatelic Resources :
http://www.singnet.com.sg/~tanwc2/stamps/stamps.htm
======================================
48) Date: Wed, 15 May
96 11:24:05 UT
From: "Richard The Third" (CAPTAINLEO@msn.com)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Cc: Jagoon@aol.com
Subject: How dare you
X-Status:
How dare you put that illigal
flag up you motherfucker.
As an Armenian who's
grandparents survived 1915, I am
astonished at your audacity and your tenaciousness. You
Turks are the most disgusting, stupid, inhumane, barbaric,
and hated race in the history of mankind.
That's why we, the Greeks, the
Kurds (who I hate and
support your killings of... they helped you assholes in the
Massacre), the Syrians, the Iranians, and the Serbs are
determined to wipe you shits off the face of the earth.
I will never forgive you for
April 24. Neither will history,
because your genocide is comming up.
49) From: cemal.mustafa@stanilite.com.au
Date: Tue, 21 May 96 12:56:44 -0700
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status: A
First Name= Cemal
Middle= Ergin
Last= Mustafa
Address= Sydney, Australia
email= cemal.mustafa@stanilite.com.au
learned= Net searched
comments=I have never visited Cyprus but wish to do
so next year. So I want to see all of
Cyprus, but can
I visit the Greek side from the
Turkish side without
going all the way to Athens? Also
is it safe to do so?
Regards,
Cemal
50) Date: Fri, 24 May
1996 14:54:21 -0500
From: Altug Bilgic (abilgic@tech.iupui.edu)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
X-Url:
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status:
First=Altug
Middle=
Last=Bilgic
Address= 5913, Beachview
23314 Indianapolis, IN 46224, USA
email=abilgic@etsun.tech.iupui.edu
learned= From a friend
comments= I am glad that
this page exists.
It is time to make the rest of the
world aware of the Cyprus Turks.
I heard about the trouble caused because of this
homepage and I would like to help in whatever way
I can to make this homepage stay.
51) Date: Sat,
25 May 1996 19:36:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: John K Muir (JKMUIR@TrentU.ca)
Subject: Request for Help
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
X-Vms-To: Y.Y.SENTURK@BRADFORD.AC.UK
X-Vms-Cc: JKMUIR
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
X-Status: A
Greetings from Canada,
I am trying to reach an old
friend with I went to school
near Henley-on-Thames in the early 1970's. I noticed the
name "Fahri Zihni" on your web page concerning the Turkish
perspective on the history of Cyprus.
If you would be so kind to
forward Fahri's email address to
me in Canada, I would be much obliged.
Looking forward,
John K Muir
52) Date: Tue, 28 May
96 16:01:10 -0700
From: Janet Griffin (jgriffin1@capecod.net)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Where can I buy Dreghorn's book?
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status: A
Hello,
my name is Janet, an American & my E-mail is
isis1403@capecod.net. I have been to
Cyprus twice (south).
I am apolitical & anamateur archeologist. (Photographer) I'm
trying to plan a 3rd trip to see Famagusta, Salamis & Enkomi
this summer. Am trying to get information on restrictions (I
will be staying in Larnaca) & specifically where to buy the book
"Famagusta & Salamis- a Guide to) by William Dreghorn
published by Rustem bookstore - which I'd like to study before
I go.
I have been trying a lot
of leads on the Internet, but to no avail.
Can you help me?
Janet
53) From: edpaeolo@spidernet.com.cy
Date: Wed, 29 May 96 16:56:07 PDT
Subject: CUPRUS IS GREEK
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Status: Dear friend
I will ask you only one question.
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE WHAT YOU
SAYING IN THAT
PAGES....????????I don't think so. So be honest with your
self and write the truth.
I AM ONLY 18 AND I AM FROM
FAMAGUSTA AND I WILL
BE AS WELL MY CHILDREN. WE WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT
YOU DONE IN 1974.AND WE WILL GET OUR HOMES BACK
BECAUSE IT ONLY BELONGS TO US.
also you I mean TURKS made a
big mistake. In 1974 you
should kill all of us because know we will get the revenge.
Maybe know or in 10 or in 100 until we all die and not exist
even one Greek Cypriot.
So don't forget that Cyprus is
Greek and we will get it back
Friendly
ONE GREEK CYPRIOT.
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54) Date: Sun, 02 Jun
1996 23:15:10 -0700
From: charis (charlie@zenon.logos.hol.gr)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
First= Aeras
Middle= charlie
Last=
Address= cypruse
mail=
learned= Followed a link
comments= There is not such a thing as a north cyprus.
All cyprus belongs to the
people of cyprus and not
the people brought from
turkey.
this is a really good
attempt for propaganda.
I wonder If you can
sleep at night
Aeras
55) Date: Tue, 04 Jun
1996 08:39:51 -0700
From: wisby (wisby@ultra.net.au)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Web page
X-Url:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status: Hi,
Just found your pages. Very
interesting, and extremely
well done. Keep it up! We need this sort of information
on the Web.
I fear I am very ignorant about
many countries, and this
is exactly the sort of thing that helps to change that.
Good luck.TTYL,
Marjorie--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Marjorie N. Wisby, BA,
MACS,
~ wisby@ultra.net.au
~ http://www.netprophet.co.nz
~ http://www.ultra.net.au/~wisby/alert.htm
~ *New:
http://www.netfreedom.org.au/
~
~ Have you noticed that people who are most unwilling
~ to accept responsibility for their own actions, are the
~ most keen to regulate everyone else's?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
56) Date: Thu, 06 Jun
1996 10:52:40 +0100
From: g f campbell (user@bigjet.source.co.uk)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: North Cyprus
X-Url:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status: A
Hello Yasar
I was very interested to
see your web page and indeed al
the information on Northern Cyprus. I am very interested
in your country and have been for some 30 years. I am
lucky enough to have a house there in Kayalaand visit
about three times a year.
Please get in touch and tell
me a bit about yourself
cheers
Gordon Campbell
57) Date: Fri, 07 Jun
96 23:59:27 -0700
From: angiem
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: you are a liar
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
for years I had to listen about
the poor Turkish scum.
Your are no different than what Hitler did to the Jews.
You killed many Greek-Cypriots and raped many
women and children. You came to our homeland and
took away what was ours. You did it with the help
of the United States. You do not have any right to
claim Northern Cyprus as your land. It is my birth
place.
I WAS THERE FIRST....YOU ARE
MUSLIMS WHO HAVE
NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE.... LEARN ABOUT HISTORY
BEFORE YOU GET YOUR SCUM TO SAY THAT YOU DID
NOT KILL INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN
1974. YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT SAID THAT THE
TURKISH PEOPLE KILLED THE HOSTAGES AND
ALL THE MISSING PEOPLE FOR RETALIATION.....
REGARDS
A PROUD GREEK CYPRIOT WHO WISHES THAT YOUR
KIND BECOMES NOTHING..... AND THAT IS WHAT YOU
ARE AND HAVE BEEN FOR CENTURIES....
58) Date: Sun, 9 Jun
1996 21:16:44 -0400
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
X-Url: mailto:y.y.senturk@bradford.ac.uk
X-Personal_Name: Winthrop Dahl
From: dahl@meol.mass.edu
Subject:
mailto:y.y.senturk@bradford.ac.uk
X-Status: A
I hope that you don't mind
answering a tourist question;
I have been reading your North Cyprus page. I plan to
visit North Cyprus this July and would like to visit
archeological sites. Is it easy to get to them without a car?
Thanks,
Winthrop Dahl
59) Date: Mon, 10 Jun
1996 11:04:16 -0700
From: HK (hk1@nicom.com)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: TDN News listing under Turkey on TRNC site
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/index.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status: A
Can you please correct your
heading under "Turkey",
"Turkish Daily News" on your Home Page.
As you know Turkish Daily News
is the only English
language news paper in Turkey and now can be reached
at http://www.TurkishDailyNews.com
Online site.
You can also find weekly news
magazine Turkish Probe
and daily Turkish Press Scanner information sheet. You
can also see a link to your site under "Other Publications
and items of Interest".
Best regards.
Harun Kazaz
Turkish Daily News Online
60) Date: Thu, 06 Jun
1996 17:01:25 -0700
From: ubilly (ubilly1@in.netcom.com)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
First= William
Middle= L
Last= Gray
Address= 115, Scenic Drive,
Madison, Alabama 35758, USA
email= ubilly1@ix.netcom.com
learned= Net searched
comments=
view=Y
61) Date: Tue, 11 Jun
1996 17:14:53 -0700
From: YOUDJEL KEMAL (yakemal@nanaimo.ark.com)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
First= Yucel
Middle= Ali
Last= Kemal
Address= 5570Hammond Bay Rd., Nanaimo.B.C.,
Canada V9T5N1
email= yakemal@nanaimo.ark.com.
learned= Regular visitor to North Cyprus site
comments= Merhaba. Butun kibrisli turk kardeslerime cok
cok selamlar.
view=Y
62) Date: Mon, 17 Jun
1996 18:36:12 -0700
From: Richard Percival
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
First= Richard
Middle= Kent
Last= Percival
Address=email= percival@netcomuk.co.uk
learn= Learned from a Mailing list posting
comments= Thank you for contacting me. We are now
looking hard to find our villa.
Agencies in UK seem
only to have small up to 5
persons villas while what
we really need is big. Wish
me luck, and good
luck to you too.
view=Y
63) Date: Fri, 28 Jun
1996 16:08:52 +0200
From: Cenk Houssein (housseic@oslo.gecp-prakla.slb.com)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
X-Url:
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
First= Huseyin
Middle= Cenk
Last= Koseoglu
Address= Jutulvein 36A, 0853 Oslo Norway
email= housseic@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com
learn= Net searched
comments= Birkac click ile Kuzey Kibris'a bu kadar
yaklasmami sagladiginiz
icin tesekkur ederim.
Bu benim ilk
ziyaretim ama artik abone oldum.
tesekkurler.
view=Y
64) Date: Fri, 30 Jun
1995 14:21:24 -0700
From: Marios Polycarpou (m.m.polycarpou@cytanet.com.cy)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: (no subject)
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/root.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
Kardesim,ben Hartzia'dan bir
gocmenim.
Kibrisli Turklerin verdigi isim Karagac'dir. Inaniyorum ki,
sen aptal bir adam degilsin.Ama yalancisin cunku ne yazdiginiz
dogru degil. Seninki bir savas yaptilar ve su anda kibris'in 38%
topraklarini tutmaktadir.Isgal aldinda topraklarda yemek para
ve yasam yok. Nicin barisci bir cozum istememektedir?
Turkce cok bilmem ama bildigim
kadar...Kibrisli Turkler aptal
lidere inanmakta ve "RUMLAR" international hukkukta
inanmaktadir.......
KIBRIS'I-IMIA'YI-KASTELLORIZO'YU-BATI
DRAKYA'YI-
KURDISTAN'I- ARMENIA'YI RET ET VE INSAN OL SEN VE SENINKI...............
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65) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996
18:56:16 +0100
From: ashmount (ashmount@ashmount.com)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: North Cyprus Home Page
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status: Y,
What an absolutely amazing site! Can't believe that its all
the work of one person - you certainly know your stuff.
Well done! Me? Well I'm just an individual with good Turkish
friends. We are going to Cyprus (North of course) ;) later this
year and I was just surfing about for some info when I fell
upon your site. Well now I don't need to look at any others I
think as you have covered just about every topic imaginable.
One thing though - I'm trying to convince those of my mates
that will be staying there to get connected so do you have
any comments about the level of service and ISP's out there?
Once again congratulations on such a comprehensive and
interesting site, my *full* respect,
Jane in London
(currently on sales@ashmount.com / sales@ashmount.co.uk)
66) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96
22:30:24 -0700
From: Iacovos Iacovides (iacovos@spidernet.com.cy)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: (no subject)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
A corner of earth touched by
hell, sounds better.
We love you, you hait.
67) Date: Mon, 15 Jul
1996 11:53:48 +0100
From: Cafe User #8 (cafe8@wkac.ac.uk)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status:
First= GREAT ALEXANDER
Middle= COSTAS
Last=
Address= CYPRUS, THE GREEK CYPRUS. CYPRUS IS GREEK.
MACEDONIA IS GREEK. IMIA IS
GREEK.
email=
comments=
YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CYPRUS PROBLEM
AND GREEKS. SO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT
CYPRUS IMIA AND MACEDONIA ARE GREEK AND THEY
ARE GOING TO BE GREEK FOR EVER.
view=Y
68) From: Brian Haldane (brianh@ozemail.com.au)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 00:45:32 -0700
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status:
First= Brian
Middle=
Last= Haldane
Address= Melbourne, Victoria - Australia
email= brianh@ozemail.com.au
learn= Followed a link
comments= I lived in Cyprus from 1967 to 1970 half my time in
Limassol and half in
Famagusta.
The walled city of Famagusta was a woderfully historic town.
My interest in Cypriot
philately started in those years and
continues today. I have
several examples of the 1964 dated
handstamps and got onto
your page through a philatelic link.
The information you publish on Turkish postal activity in
Cyprus is excellent. It proves that the Internet is not just
for surfers, it does provide a terrific source of reference
information.
Keep up the good work.
Brian
view=Y
69) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96
03:35:24 -0700
From: Michael Mehmet (michael@magic.idiscover.co.uk)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: hi,
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status: Ahi,
Can you please tell me more
about yourself, i am from cyprus
and would like to know more about what this is all about
thanks
Michael Mehmet
70) Date: Sat, 20 Jul
1996 08:03:01 -0700
From: LE QUELLEC (LE_QUELLEC@MSN.COM)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: website
X-Url: http://www.brad.ac.uk/~yysentur/.ncyprus/doc2.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
congratulations for your
website.
I found your adress on a book of S&SM. If you need informations
about the famous little village of french riviera, St.Tropez, you
can swim on official website at http://www.nova.fr/saint-tropez
People, events, beaches, mode, painters, restaurants, hotels...
olivier le quellec (general secretary of tourism office)
71) From: "Kumbarji,
Emir [GB]" (EmirK@bfpo1.gb.unisys.com)
To: (Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk)
Subject: Comments96.html
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 96 15:35:00 GMT
Encoding: 17 TEXTX-Status: A
Reading some of the comments
in:http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/comments96.html
Why have you allowed people
to get away with bad language ?
I suggest you send mail to
webmaster@xxxx . where xxx is where
offending mails come from and report these people. companies like
AOL do not away such mails.
I suggest you delete offensive
comments, we can take Critism, but
no need to swear!.
Also remind people that there
was only 1 invasion in 1974 followed
by one intervention.
Thank you
Emir.
72) Date: Thu, 25 Jul
1996 18:08:41 -0400
From: 106140.3130@compuserve.com
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: North Cyprus Web Site
X-Status:
Hi there, my name is
Mehmet and I am a Turkish Cypriot
born in London. I discovered your site whilst searching on
Yahoo. It is obvious that an enormous amount of hard work
and thought has gone into designing the site - Well done ...
I have been reading some of the
comments on the site; it
is very annoying to read some derogatory remarks made
by some Greek Cypriots - why can't they grow up and
submit constructive, reasoned comments.
All these silly comments only
illustrate to the world the hatred
and bigotry that exists .I will submit more detailed comments
later. p.s. I am a Systems Accountant.
73) Date: Sat, 27 Jul
1996 10:55:36 -0400
From: Denisflick@aol.com
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Weather in N.Cyprus in January and
February
X-Status:
My wife and I usually spend
about 6 weeks away in January
and February. We have been thinking of N. Cyprus for next
year but have no idea of the weather. Can you help?
A reference would be useful.
Many thanks.
Denis McAllister
74) Date: Fri, 29 Jul
1996 02:03:51 -0700
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
From: OKAN@worldnet.att.net
X-Status:
First= Okan
Middle= Kamil
Last= Akbas
Address= 5 Heath Terrace, Cortlandt Manor, NY 10566
email= okan@worldnet.att.com
learn= Net searched
comments= This Northern Cyprus Home Page is terrific!
Thank you for creating
and maintaining it.
Benim annem Kibris'dan. Ben NY'da dogudum. Kibris'a iki kere
gittim. Anneannem ve
dayim ordalar. Orada aylemiz cok. Bu
sayfayi Anneme
gosterdim ve cok begendi. Siz Kibris'dan mi
geldiniz ogrenmek
istiyor. Annem Iskeleli.
Please keep up the good work.
Okan Akbas
view=Y
|
| |
|
|
AUGUST
1996
75) Date: Sun, 04 Aug
1996 20:06:48 -0700
From: Memduh Gunal (mgunal@telis.org@mail.telis.org)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Congradulations for a beautiful site
X-Url: http://salamis.emu.edu.tr/~senturk/.ncyprus/root.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
From a Kibrisli brother in
the United States a warm and sincere
congradulations for a site
that is beautiful.
Ne Mutlu Turkum diyene
Memduh Gunal
76) Date: Thu, 8 Aug
1996 18:50:25 +0100
From: pstew@globalnet.co.uk
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Birds of Cyprus
X-Status:
Read the North Cyprus home
pages with much interest. Very well
presented and very informative.
Also I am very pleased
to see that our book 'The Birds of Cyprus' ,
by Peter Flint and Peter
Stewart is mentioned. For this we are most
grateful. I have studied
the birdlife of Cyprus for some 36 years, and spent
many happy times in Northern
Cyprus, camping in the Kyrenia mountains.
I have many happy memories
and treasured the friendship of both the Greek
and Turkish Cypriot people.
Keep up the good work you
are doing in keeping us informed of events
in Northern Cyprus. Though
we do have contacts there, who keeps us
informed of what birds are
being seen.
Best wishes,
Peter Stewart
77) Date: Sat, 10 Aug
1996 12:24:52 +0200 (MET DST)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
From: ALBERT Didier (dalbert@club-internet.fr)
Subject: NORTH CYPRUS - Documentation required -(ASAP)
X-Status:
Hi From Paris , "GUNAYDIN"
I know TURKEY but I want to discover an other
part: NORTH CYPRUS and I
have friends who told me that it's an interesting
place for vacations , with
sandy beaches and natural places to discover
( mainly north East ).
I plan to go to Istambul
few days in mid- September and then I would
continue my trip by discovering
North CYprus bymyself .
I Found the great ( congratulations
) website on NOrth CYPRUS very well
detailled and complete and
fun . Very Professionnal.
Could it be possible to send
as soon as possible me by mail in France ,
please :- A road map
of NORTH CYPRUS
- A complete documentation
on the turkish part of the island
- A list of hotels and rooms
to rent ( different levels)and the prices
mainly around KARPAS
area .
- The connexions and the
timetable for the flights from Europe and Turkey
to North Cyprus ,and
the prices .- The rent a car companies .
PS : Marmara travel agency
who sell this programm in France , don't
give any documentation......on North Cyprus !
So, I decide to organize
my trip by myself! Thanks a lot for cooperation.
TEKESSUR ( it's not really
well written !!! )
Didier
78) Date: Mon, 12 Aug
1996 03:14:00 +0300
From: plus12@ath.forthnet.gr
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: PROFESSOR WE WILL NOT FORGET YOUR NAME
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/index.html
WHEN THE TIME COMES YOU WILL
REGRET THAT YOUR TURKALA
MOTHER BROUGHT TO LIFE.
PLATOON A
79) From: Huseyin Sevay
(hsevay@cecase.ukans.edu)
Subject: TesekkUrler
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 15:33:06 -0500 (CDT)
X-Status:
Iyi gUnler,
Sizin KIbrIs'tan Haberler
sayfasInI WWW'de daha yeni kesfettim. Bir
KIbrIs'lI olarak memleketten
gUnlUk haberler bulmak cok sevindirici.
UgrasInIz icin cok tesekkUrler
ederim. Eger bir yardImIm dokunabilirse,
hic cekinmeyin. Ogrenim
gordUgUm dal bilgisayar mUhendisligi zaten.
Iyi isler, basarIlar,ve
Kansas, USA'den de selamlar,
HUseyin Sevay
80) From: fa32@rapid.co.uk
(fa32)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:07:29 -700
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status:
First= neil
Middle=
Last= hunter
Address=england
email=fa32@rapid.co.uk
learn= Net searched
comments= can you tell me
how or where i can get information on land
prices in the
north of cyprus, possibly Kyrenia or Famagusta
as i am very
interested in investing in these areas
view=Y
81) From: viscom@nautilus.spidernet.net
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:44:48 +0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Subject: Cyprus
X-Status:
Comments:
U CAN KILL A TURK TOO ...
SAVE THE EARTH ...
82) Date: Tue, 13 Aug
1996 13:24:10 TUR+2
From: BAYRAM GOCMEN (GOCMEN@FENFAK.EGE.EDU.TR)
Subject: merhaba
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
X-Status:
NCYPRUS-L'
in acilisi icin ilgili arkadaflorinlara cok tesekkur
eder
ve kendilerini tebrik ederim. Kibrisimizla ilgili bazi
gercekleri
bu yolla tartisarak ortaya koymak icin, tartisma
ortaminin
olusturulmasi yonunde fikirler ileri atilmasini tavsiye
ediyorum.
Herkese merhaba...
***************************************
Bayram GOCMEN, Res. As.
Department of Biology,
Zoology Section, Fac. Sci.,
Ege University
TR 35100 Bornova-IZMIR,
TURKEY
Internet: gocmen@fenfak.ege.edu.tr
Work: (90) (232) 388 40 00
Unit: 1795
-------------------------------------------------------
83) Date: Wed, 14 Aug
1996 21:59:53 +0200
From: Mustafa Riza (Mustafa.Riza@physik.tu-muenchen.de)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Almanca
Homepage
X-Url: http://www-asds.doc.ic.ac.uk/~hd/.ncyprus/root.html
X-Status: A
Selam,Ben Almanyda okuyan
bir KIBRISLI "ogrenciyim.
KIBRISIN Almanca Homepageini okurken cok
hatalar yapildigini
fark ettim. Ingilizceden birebir cevirmeyek olmuyor. Isteriseniz
Almanca Homepage'in hazirlamasinda
bende size katkIda bulunurum.
Beni tanimadiginiz icin,
ben size kisa sekilde benim kim oldugumu
anlatayim.
- Ismim: Mustafa H.A. Riza
(1.1.1972 M"unih)
- Annem Balalanlidir ve
Babam Mehmetciklidir (yani Karpazli)
- Ben Fizik okuyorum ve
bu sene sonunda insallah bitireceyim
- Kardesim Meryem Kibris'da
DA"U'de ingilizce edebiyati okuyor.
simidlik anlatacak baska
bir sey aklima gelmiyor.
Hoscakal
Musti
84) Date: Mon, 15 Aug
1994 11:43:19 -0500
From: Buju Bantan (doma@fob.com)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Bitch
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/index.html
X-Status:
Fuck you turkish mother fucker.
You desecrate our churches
and turn them into your fucking
mosques... you shot two of our men,
invaded our country and
call it your own.
Fuck you, and fuck Ciller,
and Turkey. It's payback time.
85) From varm@athena.compulink.gr
X-Authentication-Warning:
athena.compulink.gr: Host zeus.compulink.gr
[193.92.197.98] didn't use HELO protocol
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:11:07 -0700
From: varm (varm@compulink.gr)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Coward Turkish Barbarian
X-Status: Wait for my answer Barbarian.
The only place that you will
have no fear is Tatzikistan,
your homeland, with your
neihbours Mongols.
86) Date: Fri, 16 Aug
96 20:02:39 -0700
From: Andreas Philippou (andphil@logos.cy.net)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: THE MURDER OF THE THE 2 GREEK CYPRIOTS IN
THE GREEN LINE
X-Status:
YOU SHOWED TO THE WHOLE WORLD
THAT YOU ARE NOTHING
BUT BARBARIANS!! THE KILLING
OF TASSOS ISAAK WILL STAY
IN HISTORY.
THIS KIND OF THING COULD
ONLY BE DONE BY TURKS.
YOU ARE WORST THAN ANIMALS!!
87) Date: Sat, 17 Aug
1996 00:20:19 -0700
From: "Matilde I. Neret" (B.Neret@ibw.com.ni)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status:
First= Matilde
Middle= Isabel
Last= Neret
Address= Managua, Nicaragua
-- Tierra de Lagos y Volcanes
mail= bneret@ibw.com.ni
learn= From a friend
comments= Your site was
quite impressive and very informative.
I especially
enjoyed the pictures of the historic buildings,
birds and the
food.
I will definitely
have to try one the recipies listed there.
view=Y
88) Date: Sun, 18 Aug
1996 18:35:16 -0400
From: 106131.245@compuserve.com
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from AIR Mosaic
X-Status:
First=
Middle= HENRY
Last= WEIR
Address= HOMANTIN, LOWER
BRANIEL ROAD, BELFAST,
NORTHERN IRELAND BT5 7NP
email= 106131.245@compuserve.com
learn= Regular visitor to
North Cyprus site
comments=
I JUST LOVE NORTH
CYPRUS. EVERY TIME I VISIT
I MAKE MORE
FRIENDS. I WISH I WAS NOW IN OLGUNS IN
KARAOANGLU.
BEST WISHES
FROM ULSTER TO MY TURKISH-CYPRIOT FRIENDS
IN NORTH CYPRUS.
89) Date: Mon, 19 Aug
1996 01:02:01 +0100
From: Ron Murray (ron@elmfield.demon.co.uk)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status:
First= ronald
Middle=
Last= murray
Address= uk
email= ron@elmfield.demon.co.uk
learn= Net searched
comments= found your site
excellent and it provided me with a
all the info needed
for my forthcoming holiday in october.
will visit
again often. keep up the good work
90) Date: Tue, 20 Aug
96 15:59:03 -0700
From: kefaloukos george (georgekf@compulink.gr)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: TO ALL TURKISH INVADORS :
ADE KE GAMITHITE GIUSUFAKIA
X-Status:
QUESTION: HOW ELSE CAN YOU
CALL A TURK?
ANSWER : P I G,
IT IS THE SAME!!!
>
>
> This document
is maintained by Y.Yashar Sentürk from the
> University
of Bradford. The views and information contained in
> this page
does not represent that of the University of Bradford
> but my own.
I AGREE WITH
YOU!!!
91) From: T.Liloglou@liverpool.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:38:38 +0100
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Cyprus conflict discussion
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/root.html
X-Status:
Hi there!
I happened to visit the "North
Cyprus" homepage of yours. Very
well organized, well done. I
did not have the time at the moment
to read it through in detail but I
will do so as soon as I can.
The main reason I'm writing
to you is to find out whether you are
willing to discuss the Cyprus conflict
with me. And the basic question
is:
HOW CAN TURKISH POLICY BE
SO VIOLENT? IN 1996, WHEN PEOPLE
ARE EDUCATED AND ASK FOR DEMOCRACY, HUMAN
RIGHTS,
DEVELOPMENT, CULTURE, WHY TURKEY ALWAYS USE GUNS INSTEAD
OF SPEECH?
I am of Greek origin and
I would like to hear a straight forward
opinion from an educated Turkish-Cypriot
like you.
I'd like to inform you that
I have no intention to fight but simply to
talk. Many of my friends
here in Liverpool are Turks and I lack any
nationalistic ideas. I have
the dream of Greeks and Turks shaking
hands and live together peacefully.
I hope that Turks and Greeks are
wise enough not to get into the
trap that American and German weapon
industries have set (remember
the former Yougoslavia war of madness).
I am waiting to hearing from you.
akis
Dr. T. Liloglou
The University of Liverpool
United Kingdom
92) From: T.Liloglou@liverpool.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:44:36 +0100
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: history
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/root.html
X-Status:
Dear Yashar,I visited again
the NCYPRUS page today and read the
modern history chapter. I understand
the Turkish-Cypriot minority
suffered discrimination and violence from a certain
part of military-
influenced psycotic Greek-Cypriots. I may accept
the Turkish invasion
in 1974 as a try of Turkey to protect its people
(although, dear friend,
you may be well aware that this is politics
and politics are intrested on
money, power and influence; not humans).
However, this attack was
followed by severe crimes against Greek-Cypriot
civilians, which cannot
be by any means attributed as "things which
happen in a war". In addition,
after so many years Turkey has done nothing
to show "good will". Turkey
always gives military solutions to its
problems (see Curds for example).
In all these years of the Greek-Turkish
conflict not a single Turk has
been killed by Greeks (if I am wrong please
correct me) as opposed to
some tens of Greek deaths by Turkish troops
(and para-military civilians).
I assure you that you are
ABSOLUTELY SAFE to demonstrate in Omonia
square in Athens supporting
your opinion as a Turkish-Cypriot. This is the
definition of DEMOCRACY,
which is missing from the Turkish Governing
Class today. I have spoken
to a lot of Turkish friends of mine and I have
taken the same opinion:
you are not permitted to confront the Government
in Turkey. Isn't it so my
friend?
I hope that one day all non-Cypriot
troops (including Greek, Turkish and
British) will leave the
Island.
You know, I like peace, I
enjoy living, working and having fun. But I am
afraid that one day this
imperialistic military-influenced Turkish
Goverment will drag me into
a paranoic war, to accomplish the dream of a
New Ottoman Empire.
I know Greek goverments are
far awy from beiing right and they are
equally responsible for
this crisis. But at least, they don't want war,
while I am convinced that
Turkish Goverment CANNOT WAIT the time that
they find a good excuse
to start a war.
Anyway, my friend, we "the
people" have nothing to win from such
conflicts. That's way I
am working hard to fight Greek and Turkish
nationalists and fanatics
who are thirsty for blood, and make friends
who want Turks and Greeks
to leave in peace.
Have a nice day
Lakis
93) From niovi.santama@EMBL-Heidelberg.de
(Niovi Santama)
X-Sender: santama@pophost.embl-heidelberg.de
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 00:37:10 -0600
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: "Northern Cyprus" home page
X-Status:
Having seen the "Northern
Cyprus" home page I must admit I felt
impressed. For two reasons
1) because it looks very
professional and
2) because I can not believe
that anybody could so SHAMELESSLY
appropriate
what has been stolen, violated, destroyed and plundered
from ITS RIGHTFUL
OWNERS! Rarely have so many lies been put together
in one place.
YOU SHOULD ONLY FEEL ASHAMED
OF YOURSELF
Niovi Santama
94) Date: Sun, 25 Aug
1996 15:38:22 +0000
From: Neofytou Neofytos (nneofyto@mailnews.rsad.edu)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk Subject:
X-Url: http://bornova.ege.edu.tr/~ncyprus/root.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
Fuck off
CYPRUS IS GREEK
95) Date: Tue, 27 Aug
96 22:40:23 -0700
From: housseic (housseic@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Need to update the addesses of North Cyprus Missions!
X-Status: A
Yasar Bey,
Biz bu sayfayi cok yararli
buluyoruz ve surekli kullaniyoruz.
Sundugunuz bazi bilgilerin
yenilenmesi gerektigini soylemek isterim.
Kuzey Kibris'in Ingiltere
elciligi(temsilciligi) adresini ve
telefonunu degistirdi.
Yeni adres:
29 Bedford Square
London
Tel. +44 171 631 1920
Hope you find the time to
update soon.
Saygilarimla
Cenk Koseoglu
96) Date: Tue, 27 Aug
1996 20:42:37 EDT
From: gregfleming@juno.com (Patricia A Mc Coy)
To: ebyas@comp.uark.edu, Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk,
hd@doc.ic.ac.uk, cezel@wye.ac.uk,
hocanin2busim.ee.boun.edu.tr
Subject: Invitation to exchange dialogue on the Turkish
Republic of Cyprus
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 14-18
X-Status:
Hello,
I'm Greg Fleming and this
is the first time that I've sent an
e-mail message to anyone
like this. I have had an interest in the
TRNC for
quite a long time (I really like the whole island actually, but
I have
never had a chance to obtain a Turkish view of the situation. I
would like to exchange a
friendly dialogue with you and hope that you
feel likewise. I feel that
one can disagree without being disagreeable,
as it were and that I have
a lot to learn from you. I have done some
reading on the issues on
the 'net but I think that people to people
exchange makes things clearer
and puts things in a better perspective. I
do believe we can put principles
above personalities. I may ask questions
that may seem provocative
but I will always preface them with the utmost
discretion and tact, please
bear with my ignorance as a westerner and
remember that I have only
been exposed to a western point of view on
these matters.
My e-mail address is: GregFleming@
juno.com .
I sincerely hope to hear from you soon.
Very Respectfully,
Greg Fleming
97) Date: Wed, 28 Aug
1996 21:29:07 -0700
From: Kyriacos Panayiotou (Kyriacos@kittyco.demon.co.uk)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: get out of cyprus
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/index.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
stop advertising what does
not belong to you
98) Date: Thu,
29 Aug 1996 09:49:14 +0100 (BST)
From: dench (M.G.Dench@bton.ac.uk)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: The Illegal Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Status:
Dear Sir
I have just been scanning
your web pages dedicated to the illegal Turkish
Republic of Northern Cyprus
with great interest. I am, as a Byzantinist,
well aware of the hatred
that exists between the Turks and the Greeks and
of the historical basis
for them. However, the information you present on
your page as to the current
situation is both misleading and innaccurate.
I have recently visited
Northern Cyprus and, believe me, it is no
'paradise'. It is
a decaying mess.
And your comments in the
many articles
about the Cyprus 'problem'
would be more convincing
if there were not
so many desecrated Christian
churches littered about
the countryside.
Desecrated graves and violated
churches do not really go hand in hand with
Greek and Turkish unrest
- it harks back to the golden age of Islamic
Ottoman imperialism.
I believe that in Cyprus we are seeing the events of
1453 relived, only now the
Turks would seem to be a godless people.
Of course, I realise that
there are Turkish answers to all objections, and
while both the UN and international
governments turn a blind eye the
murder of Greek-Cypriots
by the Turkish aggressors will continue apace.
Can you honestly tell me
that in the modern 'civilised' world an act of
naked aggression such as
the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 can be
justified? It's interesting
that when an Islamic country,
Bosnia-Herzegovina, was the
subject of such an act, the whole world turned
against the Christian Serbs.
There is clearly a deeper pattern to this,
and one that has nothing
to do with national boundaries. Only Christ can
save and the Turkish killing
of Greeks, overtly Christian, and the
desecration of Christian
churches is clear evidence of their fear of thetruth.
This is not a personal attack,
although it may seem like one. I speak as
a Christian who sees darkness
descending on the world. I would be very
happy to talk to you about
this further should you wish to do so.
Yours sincerely
Martin Dench
99) Date: Thu, 29 Aug
1996 17:17:41 -0700
From: Marios Polycarpou (PolycarpouM@cytanet.com.cy)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status:
First= Isaak
Middle= Derinya
Last= Solomou
Address= Freedom
email= paradise-GOD
comments= We are very unhappy
because we are waiting for criminal
Denktas but that dog will go on hell
view=Y
100) From: "Wild" (wild@enterprise.net)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Cc: rayw@henleymc.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 19:59:53 +0000
Subject: Northern Cyprus
X-Status:
We spent one week in N. Cyprus
recently and found the information
on the North Cyprus Home
Page on the Web most helpful. We tried
out several restaurants
and we were particularly impressed with
The Veranda, Yema, and (specially)
Ottoman House.
Carol Wild,
Henley-on-Thames
101) Date: Sat, 31
Aug 1996 01:14:07 -0700
From: Francis Lovering (100025,1516"@compuserve.com)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Northern Cyprus
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/root.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
An excellent Web site for
a beautiful place, well done.
I have been there twice
on holiday and will return for sure.
I saw some stupid racist
comments in your comments page.
Well done for showing them - they speak for
themselves and
whilst it is sad to see
the rubbish some
of them say and it can
only support the continuation
of the 'divide', I do hope you will
continue to publish letters
from the Greek side.
It would be good to see the
country free itself from it's problems
and this must surely start
with a dialog between Cypriots. Perhaps
the Net is
a place where this can happen?
Whatever happens, please
keep your part of the country free from the dreadful exploitation and
hotels all along the coast which is affecting the South, and look after
your lovely environment.
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102) Date: Mon, 02
Sep 1996 17:53:40 +0300
From: melih FIDAN
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: tebrik
Content-Transfer-Encoding:
7bit
X-Status: A
Merhaba,Sitenizi ilk kez
ziyaret ediyorum ve tebrik ediyorum.
Bu sitenin linkini http://www.medyatext.com.tr
adresine
izin verirseniz koymayi dusunuyorum.
Saygilarimla,
Melih Fidan
103) Date: Mon, 2
Sep 1996 19:58:12 -0400
From: CENKSHEMS@aol.com
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form response
X-Status:
First= CENK
Middle= GUZEY
Last= SHEMSEDDIN
Address= 303 HIGHLAND AVE., PROVIDENCE, RI 02906 U.S.A.
email= CenkShems@aol.com
learn= Regular visitor to North Cyprus site
comments= It is the best WWW page about Cyprus.
Congratulations on the hard work you have put in this page.
If there is anything I can do for you guys, just drop me a
line.
view= Y
104) Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996
19:05:43 -1000
From: Mary Anne Hill (ptmary@aloha.net)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Sun-Content-Length: 823
X-Status:
First= Mary
Middle= Anne
Last= Hill
Address= PO Box 547, Kaunakakai, Molokai, Hawaii 96748
email= ptmary@aloha.net
learn= Regular visitor to North Cyprus site
comments= I used to live and work in Kyrenia and look forward to
visiting again in April next year.
How much would it cost to rent a village house for a year?
Are foreigners allowed to stay that long; Could I buy a
village house. How much would it cost, I am a physical
therapist would I be allowed to work? What is the cost of
living? How much would it cost for 1 kg. meat, 1 loaf of
bread, 1 kg of oranges, 1 litre of wine.
Please reply soon to ptmary@aloha.net
Tesekkur ederim, iyi geceler.
Mary Anne
view=Y
105) From: "Tony Romeyn"
(tony@mag-net.com)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Forestry E-Mail Links in
Cyprus
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:18:42 -0700
X-Status: Hi,
Could you advise me of Forestry
E-Mail Links in Cyprus.
-Universities Forestry
Departments -Consultants
If you have the same links
for other countries, it would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Tony
-- Tony Romeyn
(tony@mag-net.com)
http://www.irl.bc.ca
(Prince George, Canada)
106) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996
19:53:01 -0500
From: IPLAB (iplab@fiat.gslis.utexas.edu)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status:
First= Amy
Middle=
Last= Stout
Address=
email= AMY@fiat.gslis.utexas.edu
learn= Net searched
comments= Cok Guzel
view=Y
107) Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996
02:26:25 +0000
From: Eleni Pitsillidou (elenip@spidernet.com.cy)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Your home page
X-Url: http://bornova.ege.edu.tr/~ncyprus/root.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
Dear Yashar,
Although I do not agree with
the content of your report on the
Cyprus problem I must congratulate you on the good work you
have done with your home page - It covers just about everything
- except of course the Turkish brutality in Cyprus ( which of
course you will disagree with me )
regards,
Eleni
108) Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996
20:21:34 -0700
From: Mikela Tabone (censutab@mail.keyworld.net)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: The conflict in Cyprus
X-Url: http://bornova.ege.edu.tr/~ncyprus/root.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
Dear Sir,
I am a University Student
studying International Relations at the
University of Malta in my
last year. To graduate I must submit a thesis
which I will be doing by
the end of June 1997. For this I have chosen to
deal with the Turkish -
Cypriot conflict as seen by the media and as
portrayed to the general
Public.
I was wondering whether you
could help me by sending me valuable
information or addresses that I may be able to use in my research on the
subject. I will incurr any costs of postage, packing, etc.
My address is:
Mikela Tabone
11, Annuciation Str,
Sliema, SLM 07
Malta
e-mail - censutab@keyworld.net
Thanking you very much in
advance,
Yours Truly
Mikela Tabone
109) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996
20:59:35 -0700
From: David Triplow (davidtri@melbpc.org.au)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Cyprus Police Force
X-Url: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/root.html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Status:
I am a serving member of
the Victoria Police Force in Melbourne
Australia.
I am currently researching
"Cyprus Police Force During the Eoka
Terrorist Movement 1955-1959." Particular interest is on
Nomimal
Rolls, Honour Rolls and Casualty Lists.
If you can't help, would
you please point me in the right direction.
Thank you for your interesting
home page and any help.
David Triplow--
,-._|\ David
Triplow
/ Oz \ davidtri@melbpc.org.au
\_,--.x/ Melbourne PC User Group.
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110) Date: Sun, 08 Sep
1996 21:14:43 -0700
From: The Herder Family (HERDER@IX.NETCOM.COM)
To: Y.Y.Senturk@bradford.ac.uk
Mime-Version: 1.0
Subject: Form posted from Mozilla
X-Status:
First= Suna
Middle= Mehmet
Last= Herder
Address= Rick and Suna Herder reside at
3475 Oak Hill Court, Morgan
Hill California, USA
email= Herder@ix.netcom.com
learn= Net searched
comments=
Kizkardesim Semra Gani, Magusa'dan bizi ziyarete geldi.
Web pagedeki malumatinizi cok begendik. Calismalarinizda
cok basarilar dileriz.
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111) From: chrysoulla ioannou <cioannou@BayNetworks.COM>
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 20:42:52 +0000
To: y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: North Cyprus Home Page
As a Greek Cypriot it saddens
me that you are allowed to publish such lies and propaganda. Why do you think real Turkish Cypriots left
Cyprus? Because even they see the evil in the Turkish regime. You are right...Northern
Cyprus a corner of the earth touched by heaven, but the
Turkish regime has destroyed it.
You talk about history...what
history? It's not yours...you are not Cypriot and never will be a Cypriot.
Thanks to the occupation I will never have the honour of seeing where my parents were
born or visiting the beautiful sites that you use to make your filthy money by attracting tourists. i am not naive enough to think that any of my
words will make a difference, but I am not humble enough to shut up. In good
time, life will make it's full circle and all those who committed crimes will get their due punishment. In the meantime, I'll
wait...patiently...leaving things in the hands of God. 112) From: Paris <rpnll@westminster.ac.uk>
To: y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: NorthernCyprus Web Pages
X-URL: http://pulex.med.virginia.edu/ncyprus/root.html
To put it simply, there not
recognized!
113) From: "XENIS" <xenis@law.auth.gr>
To: <y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: letter from a free man
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:39:35 +0200
ALL AROUND THE WORLD THERE ARE
FASCISTS, NAZI'S, TERRORISTS, BANDALS ,MURDERERS AND SEXUALLY INCAPABLE. IN 1974 THEY INVADED IN CYPRUS. NOW THEY INVADED THE NET. IN MY COUNTRY I CAN THINK AND
EXPRESS FREELY. EVEN IF THE TURKISH NAZIS TOOK BY FORCE AND ILLEGALLY THE HALF OF IT. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO THINK FREELY BECAUSE YOU WILL ALWAYS BE UNDER THE
OPPRESSION OF DENKTASH AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE LICKING HIS DIRTY ASS. EVEN IF YOU STEAL MY OTHER HOME
AS WELL (THE FIRST ONE IS IN KYRENIA), I WILL BE A FREE MAN AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A SLAVE OF A NAZI THINKING YOU ARE A CITIZEN OF A STATE THAT DOES NOT EXIST, LIVING IN A HOUSE YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN FOR YOUR
OTTOMAN SEX POSES BY THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY FUCKING
YOU. (ALWAYS FROM BEHIND). I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU SICK
NAZI. BYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XENIS XENOPHONTOS
A FREE MAN, A FREE REFUGEE
114) From: "XENIS" <xenis@law.auth.gr>
To: <y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: AI SIK TIR
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:42:07 +0200
JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL AND
YOU PERVERT NAZIS
WILL BE GONE. GREEK AND TURKISH
CYPRIOTS WILL LIVE TOGETHER
AGAIN.
Xenis Xenophontos
115) From: "XENIS" <xenis@law.auth.gr>
To: <y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: DO NOT BE NAZIS
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:44:53
+0200
NEITHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT
YOU WILL NEVER BE
FREE. YOU WILL ALWAYS REMAIN AT HE BOTTOM.
UNLESS YOU
DECIDE TO ENTER DEMOCRACY AND
RESPECT TO THE OTHERS RIGHTS, IN YOUR LIFE.
YOU CAN NOT BE NAZIS FOREVER
Xenis
116) From: "XENIS" <xenis@law.auth.gr>
To: <y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: DENKTASH IS A PIG.
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:47:23
+0200
OH YES! YOUR ILLEGAL TROMOCRAT
MURDERER
NAZI LEADER IS FAT. HITLER IS SHOUTING FROM
HIS GRAVE.
AT LEAST HE WAS THIN.
Xenis
117) From: "XENIS" <xenis@law.auth.gr>
To: <y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: YOU DON'T HAVE
A STATE
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:50:42
+0200
YOUR SO CALLED STATE IS NOT
RECOGNIZED.
THE ONLY RECOGNIZED STATE IS THE REPUBLIC
OF CYPRUS.
DENKTASH IS NOT A PRESIDENT.
HE IS A FAN OF
HITLER THAT BELIEVES THAT HE IS A PRESIDENT.
HEY, LET US BE REAL. EVEN
FAT UNCIVILIZED PIGS
CAN THINK WHAT THEY WANT. EVEN THEIR SLAVES
LIKE YOU
CAN THINK SO.
Xenis
118) From: "XENIS" <xenis@law.auth.gr>
To: <y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: NAZIS NAZIS
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:54:37
+0200
DO YOU REMEMBER THE HOUSE
I HAVE AND YOU
TOOK IT BY FORCE. DO YOU REMEMBER
THE COUNTRY I HAVE AND YOU
DIVIDED IN TWO.
WELL, I DO. AS FOR YOU, YOU
WILL BE NAZIS THAT
PRETEND TO FORGET. BY THE WAY, DOES YOUR WIFE
LIKE
TO HAVE A BIG COCK? ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE
WORLD KNOW ABOUT YOUR VERY SMALL
COCKS.
Xenis
119) From: "George Mitsides"
<tmitside@dial.cylink.com.cy>
To: <y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 23:31:32
+0200
Dear Yashar,
I think that your
page is excellent in presentation and
aids but there is a big problem with your
content. I am
a Greek-Cypriot and I come from the Greek island of
Cyprus.
Although I'm only 15 years old, I know very well
the history of Cyprus. Maybe
you should look again that
part of your page. I know you know that what
you write
there are lies and I would suggest you to give true facts,
which
represent both sides.
Thanks for reading this and
I hope that one day all of the
people of Cyprus will be able to express
the same feelings,
in one united home-page.
George.
120) From: "Fevzi Jamil" <fevzi@nectar.com.au>
To: "YY SENTURK" <Y.Y.Senturk@Bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: North Cyprus
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:23:58
+1100
I enjoyed the site. I would
like to visit Cyprus, maybe one day.
Meanwhile how about more
good quality photos of the cities, restaurants, hotels etc. I am sorry about the empty
form, after the completion of the comments box I click to send. Something must
have gone wrong. Keep up the good work.
Regards
Fevzi
121) From: "A. Yiangou"
<yandreas@dial.cylink.com.cy>
To: <Y.Y.Senturk@Bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: TO ALL THE FUCKIN
TURKISH
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:40:13
+0200
HI FUCKING TURKISH
I HOPE YOUR WIFE HAVE A
GREEK BOYFRIEND ANYWAY
WE ARE TWO CYPRIOTS AND
WE JOIN OUR FORCES
IN ORDER TO YOUR MUMS
THE CAPITAL OF GREECE IS
CONSTANTINOUPOLI
BEST REGARDS FROM
RUSSIAN MISCALLES S300!!!!!!
122) From: GEORGE ELEFTHERIOU
<achnagal@logos.cy.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 96 00:42:54
-0800
Subject: The so called "TRNC"
There is no
reason for me to start this letter with "Dear...".I am a desperate
Cypriot citizen who wants to return to the village where
I was raised up, but I can not do it because the barbed
wire of shame stands on my way. Don't I have the right
to go back to my house, and would you like it if someday, someone
comes along and throws you out of your house? What I
would like you to do is to write to me your comments on this
matter. Also I would
like to refer to the so called Republic of Northern Cyprus. You already
know that there is ONLY one recognised state nowadays
and that is the "REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS" where both Turkish-Cypriots
and Greek-Cypriots must live peacefully together. I
would like you to omit any information considering the
so called "TRNC", so that foreign people visiting your homepage
will not read misleading information about Cyprus. I
look forward hearing your own comments on all of these
matters, in a peaceful reply.
Thank you.
123) From: Manolis Georgoulis
<manolis@astr14pi.difi.unipi.it>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 03:37:55
+0100 (MET)
To: y.y.senturk@Bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Northern Cyprus
Homepage
Dear Yashar,
I came across your Web Site
about the northern part of Cyprus a few days ago.
It was quite an opportunity for me to check out what "the other side "is opposing
against the Greek-Cypriot arguments. I was also quite curious to see the
comments
concerning this page. It is noticeable that comments don't go all the way to the
Imia
incident. And, needless to say, not a word about what happened across the buffer
zone last August in Cyprus. It is in my intensions to try
to set up a (as calm as possible) conversation about the
matter, since you seem to provide grounds for discussion. This discussion will
definitely
not be within the morality and spirit of a few letters you received by a bunch
of Greek
persons, which simply displays the very level of their culture. In contrast with
some
other people, I don't think that Internet should be "censored" in a
sense, not allowing
everyone's opinion to be put against the other's point of view. Opinion however, not historical
distortion. And one can firmly support that, Turkey's
intervention in Cyprus in 1974 was definitely not a peace-keeping operation. You
cannot
say that a peace-keeping operation can end up with some 200000 refuges and
scores of
violations of human rights and Geneva's Treaty declarations. A piece-keeping
operation is
carried out for solving problems and softening the pain of people that suffer,
not creating
exponentially larger ones. You are of course right that Cyprus had to face
serious problems
at that time. A Greek junta tried to impose its position by attempting a
military coup in the
island and putting a mad man in charge. However, in my opinion, this was exactly
what
Turkey was waiting for to dynamically intervene, and not the last drop that a
glass of water
could stand. The previous situation was not
exactly what you described. It is true that Turkish-Cypriots
had a tiny share in the island's industrial, commercial or cultural presence.
This is not however
because those people lived in a climate of terror and fear for their lives. The
answer can be
found to the fact, and this is what history provides, that in any case Greek-
and Turkish-inherited
citizens were living in peace (or temporary peace) the Greek element had to
exhibit scores
of achievements against a poor, fragile progress report of the other side. Just
think of Istanbul
(Constantinople). Before 1955 (you must know why I particularly refer to that
very year) there
were Greek industries in the city, Greek export firms, Greek elementary and High
Schools, colleges and in general there was a live and significant Greek component
present in all aspects
of city's life, although the population of a Greek origin was only a small
portion of Turkish
population. It seems that Turkey could not stand that. You can't deny what
happened in
Constantinople (Istanbul) at the night of 6-7 September 1955; there is a wealth
of photographic
evidence, documents and foreign press releases that pinpoint the intensity of
Turkish vandalisms carried out with the tolerance and, in some cases, with the
contribution of local
authorities. Think of Izmir (Smyrna) before and after 1922. If an army has been
defeated and
leaves a city defenceless, the conqueror does not need to burn the city down to
its foundations
or to apply massive massacres to the city's unarmed population. Those crimes
however had to
be done to vanish any faint remnant of a 2-3 millennia strong presence of
Hellenism in the area
despite centuries of Ottoman Empire occupation. Anyhow, I'm going far away; our
matter of discussion is Cyprus. Forgive me but I can't rely
neither on what you mention about "secret agreements" or "secret
promises" of Archbishop
Makarios to eliminate Turkish-Cypriot community nor to memories of British
ex-officials (given
the role of Britain in Cyprus), the reason being simply that, there is NO handy
evidence of all
those accusations, in contrast with piles of documents, photographic material
and press releases
concerning the examples I have brought up to you. Let me now focus on 1974 and
later than that. There was a military coup in Cyprus, attempting
to put in charge a pure lunity, Nicholaos Sampson, who indeed retained power for
a few days.
Those days everything happened; Turkish dynamic interference, attempts for
Makarios'
extermination, everything. The general idea of what you present is that Turkey
had to intervene
to protect the lives of the Turkish Cypriots who were facing fatal danger.
Please tell me though,
is it possible that Makarios and junta shared common plans to exterminate
Turkish-Cypriot
community and a coup against Makarios was organised at the same time? It does
not make
sense to me. And please, don't say that Makarios faced no danger from the junta;
his chopper
was repeatedly shot in his way to Paphos from Nicosia; rumours had been spread
that Archbishop
was dead. He was later exiled in Madagascar. Junta was busy trying to
exterminate its own political
opponents, instead of applying violence to Turkish-Cypriots. Those democratic
citizens had junta
was intended to kill, were all to the last ethnic Greeks and Greek-Cypriots (a
fact that you also
acknowledge, recalling the press releases you provide). So, I don't think that Turkey's
invasion (the word that gives the full meaning of the facts) was
an unavoidable consequence of Greece's intervention. In contrast, I
strongly believe that junta's
attempts were carried out to make things easier for the Turkish side. I have a
number of
arguments to support this. First, together with the successful coup, a number of
fanatic Greek
officers came from the mainland to help local stratocrats in exterminating
democratic and liberal
citizens. However, although Turkish invasion was more than visible (even
profound) NO Greek
army was transferred to Cyprus, apart from a few meaningless units! Even after
the invasion,
NO Greek army arrived to join Cyprus' National Guard. And even within National
Guard, there was a systematic attempt to eliminate resistance against Turkish forces; in
other words orders
were given NOT to resist or to exchange fires! Resistance was carried out only
by a few isolated
cores of soldiers who could not stand what they were seeing. There is the
graphical case of a
Cypriot sergeant (I'm sorry I can't recall his name, but I can find it for you
if you like) that was
repeatedly shot in both legs by Greek officers because he tried to order his
unit to be engaged in
a battle with Turkish invaders... The Greek army that was
supposed to be carried in Cyprus, remained stuck in Dodecanese
islands. And what army we're talking about? They almost had no guns and rifles!
You know, I
happen to be born in one of those islands in the Eastern Aegean, just 6-7 miles
away from the
Asia Minor's coast. I lively remember those facts; I lively remember that there
was one rifle to
be shared between 5-6 Greek soldiers. The army that was carried to the islands
was, shortly
after the invasion, and the cease-fire agreement in Cyprus, carried back to the
mainland, not
through Piraeus port or any other major Greek port, but through Volos' harbour in
the midnight
to avoid a public cry-out. This was indeed a tragedy, a question remains though
about who was
standing behind this. Just be informed that every year during the celebrations
of junta's collapse,
there is a symbolic protest march towards the American Embassy in Athens;
needless to refer to
the scope of this march. The role of the American factor in the area during the
period we are
talking about is acknowledged by almost every historian, of Greek or non-Greek
origin. Returning back to Turkey's
invasion, it's well-known what happened later. The invasion ended up
when only a part of the island was occupied, not because of Turkish intensions
but rather because
of an international cry-out and UN's involvement. Sampson's junta fell apart as
well, and democratic voices were able to be heard again from the divided island. Athens' junta
was about to fall apart too,
under the pressure of its crime. During the years that came,
piles of press releases concerning the situation in the occupied
territories were accumulated to the already existing documents. I can send you
dozens of them,
if you like, but I guess you have already seen enough of them. Severe violations
of human rights,
murders, rapes, violations of property rights, vandalisms and destruction of
Hellenic and Byzantine
monuments; all state-of-the-art proofs of a strong Hellenic presence in the
area. Time was not able
of erasing those masterpieces for thousands of years, but they were destroyed or
severely damaged
in only a few years' time. Photo archives, available in the Web, give a
magnitude of those vandalisms,
heritage of all humanity. Military camps were set up on remnants of ancient
temples and Byzantine
churches, sacrilege after sacrilege committed by stiffs of barbarians. No wonder
why the "declaration
of the establishment of the independent state of Northern Cyprus" in 1983
found no supporters
worldwide, except from Turkey itself and, later, Pakistan. And no one can ignore
the systematic
effort of Turkey to completely Turkify those areas by giving Turkish names to
cities and villages or,
more importantly, to alter the demographic ratio of the island's population, by
allowing thousands of
settlers from the mainland to come and make use of abandoned (or abandoned under
the use of force)
Greek-Cypriot properties. Those settlers didn't even know where Cyprus was
located before! And to
many of those Greek-Cypriots who decided to stay with their holdings, despite
the climate of terror, a
ridiculous 15 minute deadline was given to empty their houses and leave away (I
can send you press
reports on this, too). Please tell me, have you ever seen films and
documentaries of European Media
Networks concerning tours of reporter's groups in the northern part of Cyprus? I
happen to have seen
some of them. I won't stick on words; I'll just try to explain what I saw. I saw
people (Turkish Cypriots
or so-called "Turkish-Cypriots") to be afraid of facing cameras. I saw
locked doors and windows closing
in every direction cameras were showing at. And I saw remnants of the invasion,
even in inhabited areas,
even scars from bullets on some walls. Years after the invasion, no effort had
been carried out to diminish
that (traumatic to everyone) signs. And what's on the other side? Free Cyprus,
democratic and able of
standing on its own feet, with a wealthy economy and 1.5% inflation, to be
compared with some 70%
or even more, in the opposite side (I'm referring to Turkey's inflation as a
whole, because I cannot
discriminate between Turkey and "Northern Cyprus"). It seemed to me
that your fellow citizens are
afraid. They're afraid of loosing what they don't deserve to enjoy. They're
afraid of going back to where
they came from, just as simple as that. And to me, the enormous difference
between the two parts,
shines as an additional brilliant example of the progressive spirit of Cypriots,
independent and free,
in profound lack of comparison with the army-holded other part where every
aspect of life is still
controlled by stratocrats (your "touched-by-heaven" land is one of the
more militarised areas in the
world, and this should be made CLEAR in all directions). Because you know better
than me, I assume, that the factor that moves the filaments behind Turkey's political scenery
is the army; that's the real
governor, and if Turkey is unified and extends to all this area that maps
illustrate, it's because of the use of armed force. Every time a democratically elected government has tried
to bring Turkey out of
the dead-end it faces, army is there to prevent this major challenge. Turkey is
in war with herself, in
my opinion. A civil war in the east, an evolving genocide against Turkish
citizens of Kurdish heritage
(which you call "terrorists" by the way, because they hopelessly fight
to make their own voice heard)
and poor bilateral relations with almost every neighbouring country (think of
Syria, Iraq, Iran, Russia
and Armenia) cannot be more adequate examples of the fact that the Turkish
people is not independent
and definitely not democratically ruled. You have your own doubts on
what I'm talking about, I guess. I'll bring one last example however; I
hope you'll be willing to discuss this, too. In my opinion, it directly reflects
the morality and the democratic sensitivity of what you call your leaders. I'm referring on what happened on
Cyprus last August, trying
to keep myself calm. Again I won't stick in words; I'll just comment on the
pictures and the feelings a
whole planet sensed in front of TV screens. Words cannot sufficiently describe
those feelings, I will try to
do so, nevertheless. Please tell me, where in this damned world
"police" forces are acting side by side
with fanatic citizens? Citizens that are not even Turkish-Cypriots but were
transferred from the mainland
especially for this purpose. Wooden sticks, stones and bare guns are trying to
make your voice known to
the world. Murders by furious crowds in front of TV cameras and foreign
reporters are trying to carry your
feelings about independence and democracy (?) worldwide. And your
"President", with joey and proudness
because of his Turkish nationality, was inspecting the offence against human
dignity and civilized world.
Twenty people, armed with sticks and rocks, beating ONE
defenceless unarmed
demonstrator, lying down
unconscious with his sculp broken in pieces. And guns firing against a (also
unarmed) demonstrator, shooting
him FIVE times, as if one bullet was not enough of fully exposing your
"leaders'" democratic standards.
What a threat can be for your "Republic" and public safety two unarmed
demonstrators and a middle-aged
pensioner collecting snails or whatever with his son-in-law (shot in cold blood
two months later) !!!! And
then, your "President", rewarding the man in charge of extremists
(Grey Wolves you prefer to call them), inaugurating him as "Minister of Energy and Agriculture"...
A recognized murderer as a "Minister"
of a so-called "Government"! He later, refusing his involvement, did
not omit to mention that those demonstrators were pigs that don't deserve to live!!! Please tell me,
sincerely, what do you expect to
achieve with such kind of actions? The only achievement of yours (please note
that by using the word
"you" or "yours" I don't refer to you personally, but to
your "country" as a whole) is further political
isolation and awakening of feelings that stand far away from actions counted to
civilised human beings.
And it is quite an paradox what you try to prove, namely that Greek- and
Turkish-Cypriots cannot live in
harmony, using such means, namely bringing non-Cypriot Turkish nationalists to
show this to the rest of the world! I hope you too don't welcome
those expressions of
cowardish and rough brutality, elements that, unfortunately,
have always be demonstrated by your own country in the
worst of ways. It's evident that you are a highly-educated
individual, who prefers to discuss about such matters, instead
of acting violently. I do too, although I hardly brought myself
back to control when I witnessed those tragic incidents with
my own eyes... I also think that those uncontrolled crowds
deserve nothing more than the exact reward of their own
actions. There is a stream of Turkish intellectuals, journalists
and writers that rises its voice against all those actions
stressing at the same time the depression of free speech in
Turkey. Members of the Turkish Parliament are in prison
because they have committed the despicable crime of
supporting Kurds, and Turkish prisoners were involved in
the most desperate of strikes, that of refusing to eat, to
force the state acting in a more democratic and civilised way
(eleven of them died of starvation, you must know). And of
course, dozens of political refuges (including famous Turkish
personalities like writer Asiz Nazim) that seek for an asylum
in nearby Aegean islands, reaching them with any available
means, from rubber boats to life jackets. Many of them have
been drawn in the Aegean in their effort to make their lives
better by moving in a free country. I would really like to have
your opinion about those matters.
Concluding, since you are
an Internet user, I would like to
give you an address of a Web site in
Greece. Again, no
comments, no words. Just take a look at the pictures.
A rare photo archive that grafically demonstrates some of
your countrie's
action during this century. The pictures are
shocking and include explicit
violence, but they definitely
worth to be seen by any mature individual,
whatever his
(or her) nationality. The site belongs to the Democritus
University of Thrace and is located at the address
"http://www.cc.duth.gr/whatsnew.html").
And, for the love
of God, (Allah or Christ, no matter what), please try to
provide me with similar pictures that illustrate
Greek actions
against Turkish people, or people of whatever nationality.
I
never had the chance to view such a material; I don't think
it exists.
I would appreciate if you could change my opinion...
Thank you in advance for
your patience to read this long letter.
Take your time to reply, if you
want. I would be happy to have
your reply on this, sometime. If you are
not willing to reply
though, I would appreciate if you could put this letter
somewhere
in your comments' section so that interested people
from both
sides can see this point of view and reply if they want to.
Sincerely,
Manolis
124) From: NICOS ANASTASSIADES
<paracru@spidernet.com.cy>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 18:24:48
-0800
Subject: (no subject)
I hope you realize
that you are promoting a part of an
island that has been under Turkish occupation
since 1974.
I do not believe that I have to go into the logistics, but
I can
assure you that although I grew up in Limassol having
several
Turkish Cypriots as friends and never having
problems.
Promoting an occupied
region of a nation for
profits from stolen land and property is not
FAIR. I am not
politically minded but I am talking about fairness and
human
rights. I dream of the day that we can all live on this small
island
as one-people once again, but the way we are going
I cant be very optimistic.
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